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Model Checking Contest 2024
14th edition, Geneva, Switzerland, June 25, 2024
Execution of r356-tall-171683761500631
Last Updated
July 7, 2024

About the Execution of ITS-Tools for ShieldPPPt-PT-020A

Execution Summary
Max Memory
Used (MB)
Time wait (ms) CPU Usage (ms) I/O Wait (ms) Computed Result Execution
Status
429.939 6326.00 18970.00 66.00 TTTTFTTTTTFTTTTF normal

Execution Chart

We display below the execution chart for this examination (boot time has been removed).

Trace from the execution

Formatting '/data/fkordon/mcc2024-input.r356-tall-171683761500631.qcow2', fmt=qcow2 size=4294967296 backing_file=/data/fkordon/mcc2024-input.qcow2 backing_fmt=qcow2 cluster_size=65536 lazy_refcounts=off refcount_bits=16
Waiting for the VM to be ready (probing ssh)
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=====================================================================
Generated by BenchKit 2-5568
Executing tool itstools
Input is ShieldPPPt-PT-020A, examination is ReachabilityFireability
Time confinement is 3600 seconds
Memory confinement is 16384 MBytes
Number of cores is 4
Run identifier is r356-tall-171683761500631
=====================================================================

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preparation of the directory to be used:
/home/mcc/execution
total 536K
-rw-r--r-- 1 mcc users 6.5K May 14 13:22 CTLCardinality.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 mcc users 70K May 14 13:22 CTLCardinality.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 mcc users 4.4K May 14 13:22 CTLFireability.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 mcc users 37K May 14 13:22 CTLFireability.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 mcc users 4.2K May 18 16:43 GenericPropertiesDefinition.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 mcc users 6.6K May 18 16:43 GenericPropertiesVerdict.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 mcc users 3.8K Apr 23 07:54 LTLCardinality.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 mcc users 28K Apr 23 07:54 LTLCardinality.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 mcc users 2.2K Apr 23 07:54 LTLFireability.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 mcc users 17K Apr 23 07:54 LTLFireability.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 mcc users 9.1K Apr 11 15:00 ReachabilityCardinality.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 mcc users 92K Apr 11 15:00 ReachabilityCardinality.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 mcc users 7.9K Apr 11 14:55 ReachabilityFireability.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 mcc users 68K Apr 11 14:55 ReachabilityFireability.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 mcc users 1.6K Apr 23 07:54 UpperBounds.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 mcc users 3.7K Apr 23 07:54 UpperBounds.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 mcc users 6 May 18 16:43 equiv_col
-rw-r--r-- 1 mcc users 5 May 18 16:43 instance
-rw-r--r-- 1 mcc users 6 May 18 16:43 iscolored
-rw-r--r-- 1 mcc users 134K May 18 16:43 model.pnml

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content from stdout:

=== Data for post analysis generated by BenchKit (invocation template)

The expected result is a vector of booleans
BOOL_VECTOR

here is the order used to build the result vector(from text file)
FORMULA_NAME ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-00
FORMULA_NAME ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-01
FORMULA_NAME ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-02
FORMULA_NAME ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-03
FORMULA_NAME ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-04
FORMULA_NAME ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-05
FORMULA_NAME ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-06
FORMULA_NAME ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-07
FORMULA_NAME ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-08
FORMULA_NAME ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-09
FORMULA_NAME ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-10
FORMULA_NAME ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-11
FORMULA_NAME ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-12
FORMULA_NAME ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-13
FORMULA_NAME ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-14
FORMULA_NAME ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-15

=== Now, execution of the tool begins

BK_START 1717011941210

Invoking MCC driver with
BK_TOOL=itstools
BK_EXAMINATION=ReachabilityFireability
BK_BIN_PATH=/home/mcc/BenchKit/bin/
BK_TIME_CONFINEMENT=3600
BK_INPUT=ShieldPPPt-PT-020A
BK_MEMORY_CONFINEMENT=16384
Not applying reductions.
Model is PT
ReachabilityFireability PT
Running Version 202405141337
[2024-05-29 19:45:42] [INFO ] Running its-tools with arguments : [-pnfolder, /home/mcc/execution, -examination, ReachabilityFireability, -its, -ltsmin, -greatspnpath, /home/mcc/BenchKit/bin//../itstools/bin//..//greatspn/, -order, META, -manyOrder, -smt, -timeout, 3600]
[2024-05-29 19:45:42] [INFO ] Parsing pnml file : /home/mcc/execution/model.pnml
[2024-05-29 19:45:42] [INFO ] Load time of PNML (sax parser for PT used): 96 ms
[2024-05-29 19:45:42] [INFO ] Transformed 503 places.
[2024-05-29 19:45:42] [INFO ] Transformed 363 transitions.
[2024-05-29 19:45:42] [INFO ] Found NUPN structural information;
[2024-05-29 19:45:42] [INFO ] Parsed PT model containing 503 places and 363 transitions and 1446 arcs in 208 ms.
Parsed 16 properties from file /home/mcc/execution/ReachabilityFireability.xml in 14 ms.
Working with output stream class java.io.PrintStream
Ensure Unique test removed 1 transitions
Reduce redundant transitions removed 1 transitions.
[2024-05-29 19:45:43] [INFO ] Flatten gal took : 128 ms
[2024-05-29 19:45:43] [INFO ] Flatten gal took : 52 ms
[2024-05-29 19:45:43] [INFO ] Time to serialize gal into /tmp/ReachabilityCardinality2401559347811225284.gal : 21 ms
[2024-05-29 19:45:43] [INFO ] Time to serialize properties into /tmp/ReachabilityCardinality17047197469398230196.prop : 4 ms
Invoking ITS tools like this :cd /home/mcc/execution;'/home/mcc/BenchKit/itstools/itstools/plugins/fr.lip6.move.gal.itstools.binaries_1.0.0.202405141337/bin/its-reach-linux64' '--gc-threshold' '2000000' '--quiet' '-i' '/tmp/ReachabilityCardinality2401559347811225284.gal' '-t' 'CGAL' '-reachable-file' '/tmp/ReachabilityCardinality17047197469398230196.prop' '--nowitness' '--gen-order' 'FOLLOW'
RANDOM walk for 40000 steps (8 resets) in 2019 ms. (19 steps per ms) remains 8/16 properties
FORMULA ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-15 FALSE TECHNIQUES TOPOLOGICAL RANDOM_WALK
FORMULA ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-09 TRUE TECHNIQUES TOPOLOGICAL RANDOM_WALK
FORMULA ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-07 TRUE TECHNIQUES TOPOLOGICAL RANDOM_WALK
FORMULA ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-06 TRUE TECHNIQUES TOPOLOGICAL RANDOM_WALK
FORMULA ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-04 FALSE TECHNIQUES TOPOLOGICAL RANDOM_WALK
FORMULA ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-02 TRUE TECHNIQUES TOPOLOGICAL RANDOM_WALK
FORMULA ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-01 TRUE TECHNIQUES TOPOLOGICAL RANDOM_WALK
FORMULA ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-00 TRUE TECHNIQUES TOPOLOGICAL RANDOM_WALK

its-reach command run as :

/home/mcc/BenchKit/itstools/itstools/plugins/fr.lip6.move.gal.itstools.binaries_1.0.0.202405141337/bin/its-reach-linux64 --gc-threshold 2000000 --quiet ...329
Loading property file /tmp/ReachabilityCardinality17047197469398230196.prop.
BEST_FIRST walk for 40002 steps (8 resets) in 656 ms. (60 steps per ms) remains 8/8 properties
BEST_FIRST walk for 40004 steps (8 resets) in 647 ms. (61 steps per ms) remains 8/8 properties
SDD proceeding with computation,16 properties remain. new max is 4
SDD size :2 after 3
SDD proceeding with computation,16 properties remain. new max is 8
SDD size :3 after 10
SDD proceeding with computation,16 properties remain. new max is 16
SDD size :10 after 24
Reachability property ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-09 is true.
Reachability property ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-03 is true.
FORMULA ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-03 TRUE TECHNIQUES DECISION_DIAGRAMS TOPOLOGICAL COLLATERAL_PROCESSING
Reachability property ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-01 is true.
SDD proceeding with computation,13 properties remain. new max is 16
SDD size :24 after 49
Reachability property ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-12 is true.
FORMULA ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-12 TRUE TECHNIQUES DECISION_DIAGRAMS TOPOLOGICAL COLLATERAL_PROCESSING
SDD proceeding with computation,12 properties remain. new max is 16
SDD size :49 after 76
SDD proceeding with computation,12 properties remain. new max is 32
SDD size :76 after 142
SDD proceeding with computation,12 properties remain. new max is 64
SDD size :142 after 342
SDD proceeding with computation,12 properties remain. new max is 128
SDD size :342 after 1203
Invariant property ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-10 does not hold.
FORMULA ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-10 FALSE TECHNIQUES DECISION_DIAGRAMS TOPOLOGICAL COLLATERAL_PROCESSING
SDD proceeding with computation,11 properties remain. new max is 128
SDD size :1203 after 314130
BEST_FIRST walk for 40004 steps (8 resets) in 487 ms. (81 steps per ms) remains 8/8 properties
SDD proceeding with computation,11 properties remain. new max is 256
SDD size :314130 after 982750
SDD proceeding with computation,11 properties remain. new max is 512
SDD size :982750 after 1.29988e+07
BEST_FIRST walk for 40003 steps (8 resets) in 295 ms. (135 steps per ms) remains 7/8 properties
SDD proceeding with computation,11 properties remain. new max is 1024
SDD size :1.29988e+07 after 3.54944e+10
BEST_FIRST walk for 40003 steps (8 resets) in 324 ms. (123 steps per ms) remains 7/7 properties
SDD proceeding with computation,11 properties remain. new max is 2048
SDD size :3.54944e+10 after 3.72328e+20
BEST_FIRST walk for 40003 steps (8 resets) in 333 ms. (119 steps per ms) remains 7/7 properties
BEST_FIRST walk for 40004 steps (8 resets) in 221 ms. (180 steps per ms) remains 7/7 properties
BEST_FIRST walk for 40002 steps (8 resets) in 311 ms. (128 steps per ms) remains 7/7 properties
// Phase 1: matrix 362 rows 503 cols
[2024-05-29 19:45:44] [INFO ] Computed 221 invariants in 12 ms
All remaining problems are real, not stopping.
At refinement iteration 0 (INCLUDED_ONLY) 0/144 variables, 144/144 constraints. Problems are: Problem set: 0 solved, 5 unsolved
At refinement iteration 1 (INCLUDED_ONLY) 0/144 variables, 0/144 constraints. Problems are: Problem set: 0 solved, 5 unsolved
Reachability property ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-13 is true.
FORMULA ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-13 TRUE TECHNIQUES DECISION_DIAGRAMS TOPOLOGICAL COLLATERAL_PROCESSING
Reachability property ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-07 is true.
At refinement iteration 2 (OVERLAPS) 142/286 variables, 125/269 constraints. Problems are: Problem set: 1 solved, 4 unsolved
Invariant property ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-04 does not hold.
SDD proceeding with computation,8 properties remain. new max is 2048
SDD size :3.72328e+20 after 8.64432e+38
At refinement iteration 3 (INCLUDED_ONLY) 0/286 variables, 142/411 constraints. Problems are: Problem set: 1 solved, 4 unsolved
At refinement iteration 4 (INCLUDED_ONLY) 0/286 variables, 0/411 constraints. Problems are: Problem set: 1 solved, 4 unsolved
At refinement iteration 5 (OVERLAPS) 217/503 variables, 96/507 constraints. Problems are: Problem set: 1 solved, 4 unsolved
At refinement iteration 6 (INCLUDED_ONLY) 0/503 variables, 217/724 constraints. Problems are: Problem set: 1 solved, 4 unsolved
At refinement iteration 7 (INCLUDED_ONLY) 0/503 variables, 0/724 constraints. Problems are: Problem set: 1 solved, 4 unsolved
At refinement iteration 8 (OVERLAPS) 362/865 variables, 503/1227 constraints. Problems are: Problem set: 1 solved, 4 unsolved
At refinement iteration 9 (INCLUDED_ONLY) 0/865 variables, 0/1227 constraints. Problems are: Problem set: 1 solved, 4 unsolved
At refinement iteration 10 (OVERLAPS) 0/865 variables, 0/1227 constraints. Problems are: Problem set: 1 solved, 4 unsolved
No progress, stopping.
After SMT solving in domain Real declared 865/865 variables, and 1227 constraints, problems are : Problem set: 1 solved, 4 unsolved in 1046 ms.
Refiners :[Domain max(s): 503/503 constraints, Positive P Invariants (semi-flows): 221/221 constraints, State Equation: 503/503 constraints, PredecessorRefiner: 5/5 constraints, Known Traps: 0/0 constraints]
Escalating to Integer solving :Problem set: 1 solved, 4 unsolved
At refinement iteration 0 (INCLUDED_ONLY) 0/140 variables, 140/140 constraints. Problems are: Problem set: 1 solved, 4 unsolved
At refinement iteration 1 (INCLUDED_ONLY) 0/140 variables, 0/140 constraints. Problems are: Problem set: 1 solved, 4 unsolved
Problem ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-05 is UNSAT
FORMULA ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-05 TRUE TECHNIQUES SMT_REFINEMENT
At refinement iteration 2 (OVERLAPS) 136/276 variables, 121/261 constraints. Problems are: Problem set: 2 solved, 3 unsolved
At refinement iteration 3 (INCLUDED_ONLY) 0/276 variables, 136/397 constraints. Problems are: Problem set: 2 solved, 3 unsolved
At refinement iteration 4 (INCLUDED_ONLY) 0/276 variables, 0/397 constraints. Problems are: Problem set: 2 solved, 3 unsolved
At refinement iteration 5 (OVERLAPS) 227/503 variables, 100/497 constraints. Problems are: Problem set: 2 solved, 3 unsolved
At refinement iteration 6 (INCLUDED_ONLY) 0/503 variables, 227/724 constraints. Problems are: Problem set: 2 solved, 3 unsolved
At refinement iteration 7 (INCLUDED_ONLY) 0/503 variables, 0/724 constraints. Problems are: Problem set: 2 solved, 3 unsolved
At refinement iteration 8 (OVERLAPS) 362/865 variables, 503/1227 constraints. Problems are: Problem set: 2 solved, 3 unsolved
At refinement iteration 9 (INCLUDED_ONLY) 0/865 variables, 3/1230 constraints. Problems are: Problem set: 2 solved, 3 unsolved
At refinement iteration 10 (INCLUDED_ONLY) 0/865 variables, 0/1230 constraints. Problems are: Problem set: 2 solved, 3 unsolved
At refinement iteration 11 (OVERLAPS) 0/865 variables, 0/1230 constraints. Problems are: Problem set: 2 solved, 3 unsolved
No progress, stopping.
After SMT solving in domain Int declared 865/865 variables, and 1230 constraints, problems are : Problem set: 2 solved, 3 unsolved in 1396 ms.
Refiners :[Domain max(s): 503/503 constraints, Positive P Invariants (semi-flows): 221/221 constraints, State Equation: 503/503 constraints, PredecessorRefiner: 3/5 constraints, Known Traps: 0/0 constraints]
After SMT, in 2577ms problems are : Problem set: 2 solved, 3 unsolved
Finished Parikh walk after 29355 steps, including 138 resets, run visited all 3 properties in 553 ms. (steps per millisecond=53 )
FORMULA ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-14 TRUE TECHNIQUES PARIKH_WALK
FORMULA ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-11 TRUE TECHNIQUES PARIKH_WALK
FORMULA ShieldPPPt-PT-020A-ReachabilityFireability-2024-08 TRUE TECHNIQUES PARIKH_WALK
Finished Parikh walk after 0 steps, including 0 resets, run visited all 0 properties in 1 ms. (steps per millisecond=0 )
Finished Parikh walk after 0 steps, including 0 resets, run visited all 0 properties in 1 ms. (steps per millisecond=0 )
Parikh walk visited 3 properties in 571 ms.
ITS runner timed out or was interrupted.
ITS tools runner thread asked to quit. Dying gracefully.
All properties solved without resorting to model-checking.
Total runtime 5188 ms.

BK_STOP 1717011947536

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content from stderr:

+ export BINDIR=/home/mcc/BenchKit/bin//../itstools/bin//../
+ BINDIR=/home/mcc/BenchKit/bin//../itstools/bin//../
++ pwd
+ export MODEL=/home/mcc/execution
+ MODEL=/home/mcc/execution
+ [[ ReachabilityFireability = StateSpace ]]
+ /home/mcc/BenchKit/bin//../itstools/bin//..//runeclipse.sh /home/mcc/execution ReachabilityFireability -its -ltsmin -greatspnpath /home/mcc/BenchKit/bin//../itstools/bin//..//greatspn/ -order META -manyOrder -smt -timeout 3600
+ ulimit -s 65536
+ [[ -z '' ]]
+ export LTSMIN_MEM_SIZE=8589934592
+ LTSMIN_MEM_SIZE=8589934592
+ export PYTHONPATH=/home/mcc/BenchKit/itstools/pylibs
+ PYTHONPATH=/home/mcc/BenchKit/itstools/pylibs
+ export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/mcc/BenchKit/itstools/pylibs:
+ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/mcc/BenchKit/itstools/pylibs:
++ sed s/.jar//
++ perl -pe 's/.*\.//g'
++ ls /home/mcc/BenchKit/bin//../itstools/bin//..//itstools/plugins/fr.lip6.move.gal.application.pnmcc_1.0.0.202405141337.jar
+ VERSION=202405141337
+ echo 'Running Version 202405141337'
+ /home/mcc/BenchKit/bin//../itstools/bin//..//itstools/its-tools -pnfolder /home/mcc/execution -examination ReachabilityFireability -its -ltsmin -greatspnpath /home/mcc/BenchKit/bin//../itstools/bin//..//greatspn/ -order META -manyOrder -smt -timeout 3600

Sequence of Actions to be Executed by the VM

This is useful if one wants to reexecute the tool in the VM from the submitted image disk.

set -x
# this is for BenchKit: configuration of major elements for the test
export BK_INPUT="ShieldPPPt-PT-020A"
export BK_EXAMINATION="ReachabilityFireability"
export BK_TOOL="itstools"
export BK_RESULT_DIR="/tmp/BK_RESULTS/OUTPUTS"
export BK_TIME_CONFINEMENT="3600"
export BK_MEMORY_CONFINEMENT="16384"
export BK_BIN_PATH="/home/mcc/BenchKit/bin/"

# this is specific to your benchmark or test

export BIN_DIR="$HOME/BenchKit/bin"

# remove the execution directoty if it exists (to avoid increse of .vmdk images)
if [ -d execution ] ; then
rm -rf execution
fi

# this is for BenchKit: explicit launching of the test
echo "====================================================================="
echo " Generated by BenchKit 2-5568"
echo " Executing tool itstools"
echo " Input is ShieldPPPt-PT-020A, examination is ReachabilityFireability"
echo " Time confinement is $BK_TIME_CONFINEMENT seconds"
echo " Memory confinement is 16384 MBytes"
echo " Number of cores is 4"
echo " Run identifier is r356-tall-171683761500631"
echo "====================================================================="
echo
echo "--------------------"
echo "preparation of the directory to be used:"

tar xzf /home/mcc/BenchKit/INPUTS/ShieldPPPt-PT-020A.tgz
mv ShieldPPPt-PT-020A execution
cd execution
if [ "ReachabilityFireability" = "ReachabilityDeadlock" ] || [ "ReachabilityFireability" = "UpperBounds" ] || [ "ReachabilityFireability" = "QuasiLiveness" ] || [ "ReachabilityFireability" = "StableMarking" ] || [ "ReachabilityFireability" = "Liveness" ] || [ "ReachabilityFireability" = "OneSafe" ] || [ "ReachabilityFireability" = "StateSpace" ]; then
rm -f GenericPropertiesVerdict.xml
fi
pwd
ls -lh

echo
echo "--------------------"
echo "content from stdout:"
echo
echo "=== Data for post analysis generated by BenchKit (invocation template)"
echo
if [ "ReachabilityFireability" = "UpperBounds" ] ; then
echo "The expected result is a vector of positive values"
echo NUM_VECTOR
elif [ "ReachabilityFireability" != "StateSpace" ] ; then
echo "The expected result is a vector of booleans"
echo BOOL_VECTOR
else
echo "no data necessary for post analysis"
fi
echo
if [ -f "ReachabilityFireability.txt" ] ; then
echo "here is the order used to build the result vector(from text file)"
for x in $(grep Property ReachabilityFireability.txt | cut -d ' ' -f 2 | sort -u) ; do
echo "FORMULA_NAME $x"
done
elif [ -f "ReachabilityFireability.xml" ] ; then # for cunf (txt files deleted;-)
echo echo "here is the order used to build the result vector(from xml file)"
for x in $(grep '' ReachabilityFireability.xml | cut -d '>' -f 2 | cut -d '<' -f 1 | sort -u) ; do
echo "FORMULA_NAME $x"
done
elif [ "ReachabilityFireability" = "ReachabilityDeadlock" ] || [ "ReachabilityFireability" = "QuasiLiveness" ] || [ "ReachabilityFireability" = "StableMarking" ] || [ "ReachabilityFireability" = "Liveness" ] || [ "ReachabilityFireability" = "OneSafe" ] ; then
echo "FORMULA_NAME ReachabilityFireability"
fi
echo
echo "=== Now, execution of the tool begins"
echo
echo -n "BK_START "
date -u +%s%3N
echo
timeout -s 9 $BK_TIME_CONFINEMENT bash -c "/home/mcc/BenchKit/BenchKit_head.sh 2> STDERR ; echo ; echo -n \"BK_STOP \" ; date -u +%s%3N"
if [ $? -eq 137 ] ; then
echo
echo "BK_TIME_CONFINEMENT_REACHED"
fi
echo
echo "--------------------"
echo "content from stderr:"
echo
cat STDERR ;